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well as you all know I'm guilty with

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this under the alarming title now I'm

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not alarming I selected situation read

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on it purposely because

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I thought the situation was just that

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and the reason I say that similarly is

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because as long as people worldwide are

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having close encounter

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and in any instances it was frightened

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to death by another encounter I believe

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that the situation is red

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I also go with the military knows

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so being guilty that I'm also guilty of

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something else and I feel rather

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horrible I must apologize

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taking me away from your TV set tonight

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in these little episodes we learn of all

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the Glorious Blue Book and how nice they

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were with all the people that they

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interviewed in the case

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and uh

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right I have to differ that the approach

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as Illustrated in the TV series they

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weren't always quite that diplomatic

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about handling Affairs in their during

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their interrogations and pursuit of the

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UFO the handling of the subject with the

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public

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and they're rather in glorious devise

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in the content project I was a fortunate

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or unfortunate to have worked with the

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uh confident project as a field

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investigator for the tri-state area I

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knew some of the inner workings of the

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the common group and I could not say

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that I worked with him in any degree of

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crime

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but I did learn so and all the past

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experiences whatever they may have been

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including my working with the Air Force

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after three years in the early 50s

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operating under the code name Oxford

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8030 blue

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where I was asked to report

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to your defense demand Columbus Ohio all

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UFO activity in our area that I

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considered worth reporting in a word

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when I sent them was based on my my

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screen my knowledge at the time of what

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a real UFO might be and I must say

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that it resolved that the number of

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calls I've made to the within those

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three years

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that there were occasions when the Jets

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were sent up to scrambled in pursuit of

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the UFO at that point I was told

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not in writing but by an Air Force

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officer that I was never to ask any

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questions

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of course at that time and of course

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since I realized that the what they had

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learned from the pursuit was maintained

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for heavy classification usually Secret

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so I had to the many many years many ups

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and downs all sorts of experience for

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the UFO situation

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so with all that information I guess

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that's what really prompted me to put it

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down sort of a memory bank and situation

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ready

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tonight I actually

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a couple days ago knowing that I would

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be here and talking for a research group

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I wondered just Bubba and I relate to

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those of you a new subject I knew I

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couldn't Buffalo you until my wife was

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speaking to a Sunday school group you

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can tell them almost anything and they

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believe them and I realized here I can't

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fool you so I have to be very careful

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but I have something to say

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the reason for this is the paper that I

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have prepared and working on for several

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it's very relatively

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it's entitled

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retrievals of the Third Kind

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and with concerns

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in my belief

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the hardware the officials the Air Force

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has been hiding from the public for many

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and that would also include the

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occupants

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I Derek published some of this in my

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book some basic knowledge that I had

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at that time I stood not approve D what

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I was relating but I thought it sounded

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pretty good because it came from

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reliable source of course when the book

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is published by Doubleday

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and I got out on an actual basis like

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additional information started to sneak

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my way from various

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sources that had treated the information

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we had that are subrosive for years and

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then very carefully was related to me

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which perked up my ears that became

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concerned I thought well the greatest

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subject has been taboo and research from

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practice Inception

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thanks to a book written by Frank Scully

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kind of flying sausage back in 1950. it

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was now my belief

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that the book was a contrived book put

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there on purpose to reduce or subdue the

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answers of researchers such as myself

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in those early years referring to anyone

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anyone who would dare bring up this type

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of thing in serious research where we

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laughed by the business because of what

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Jerry referred to as the little green

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man and so forth so on in other words

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an atmosphere was created by certain

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authorities keep the subject played down

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we all know very very successful

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until Springfield decided to do

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something else a few months ago and it

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opened up a whole new can of worms

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so what I've done

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thought I had prepared to relate to you

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this evening enjoy the whole thing up

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yesterday I said there's no issue

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trying to address the elite group such a

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tube with more

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UFO sightings nocturnal lights Close

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Encounters after all they're all been

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published retold we're all quite aware

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of the we all know who's who and

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research we all know what the research

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was doing groups are doing good or bad

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we've heard all the theories so why

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should I get up here and waste your time

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tonight with the sliced hold tails there

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are at least 2 000 books on the market

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and they'll all say the same thing

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I'm going to get right to the point

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or an expression no crap

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I think it's time for truth

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53-page report again entitled retrievals

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in the Third Kind

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I think perhaps you'll realize what I'm

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trying to relate

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I think the data that I have within 17

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abstracts my paper from information I

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gathered from what I consider to be very

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reliable services

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should open the eyeballs with somebody

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if they mass media

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because they're attending and they've

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all been invited

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they know the subject

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title the subject

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they're there to truly be objective they

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listen to me and report it accordingly

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they do a good test

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sensitive subject now a warn you the

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night when I speak with some of these

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matters in this subject I can only tease

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because I cannot reveal at this time

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the contents of my paper which will be

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revealed on July 2019 they

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will probably all know the viewpoint

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towards me because it's an annual Affair

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and each year a city is picked and this

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year propitiously it's taken

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right next to Wright-Patterson field

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and that is the the sensitive area

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actually started to work on this

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self-assignment

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bits of information in mind used

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and in time other parts and pieces

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of this type of information reached me

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which encouraged me I came to a point

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really should I do it or not because I

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knew that it could either be in the end

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having had my own experience with UFOs

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and the plane of almost crashes all of

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them

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28 years of ups and downs research and

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those of you have been in that long or

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even less know what it can do to you

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and I've held up under that

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although my wife might disagree

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but anyway I survived the ball and I

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thought well let's tackle the big one

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here's here's my my salon song Here's my

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big challenge

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to really go into this

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all the way

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and I did I pushed everything else

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inside to concentrate in this one

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endeavor

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neglect as much good solid information

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possible for the best sources

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if you make the paper we saw it as

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possible to present before the world

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bits of information came to me in that

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are surprising ways people following a

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talk look them up and say I have

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something to talk to you about where

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everybody goes away

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man who had seen me

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retrieved occupants firsthand

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and he described them to me and in

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because and this I thought was just a

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little strange because it came from a

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pilot who had been in the military and

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had top security clearance

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and when I got this little information I

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decided that this was the turning point

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that I would pursue

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I really did everything to me that had

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been a one-time a rumor or something

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fifth six eight man

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I went up I took a lot of doing

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very careful cautious persistent work

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and in fact became a 24-hour Advantage

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job to pursue many of these Loose Ends

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but I did it

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and the long story short

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January February this year I'd come up

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with an amazing amount of material

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new material material that had never

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been known to most researchers before

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when you get into a sensitive area like

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this you if you get by the one person

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sometimes they can relate you to another

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person who may be way over Timbuktu but

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we can eventually get to them again

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being always cautious diplomatic

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and all the other virtues it goes with

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getting information

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so by April 5th or 6th I have completed

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and I took a good

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long second looks at everything whether

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could I really do this and I said well I

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got it finished there's all the works

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why not

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so am I informed well Dan Richard

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director of Newton I had come this far

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the papers ready

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confidential red

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mask while not reveal the contents this

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paper to no one

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even the typist

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in the printer

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that's a joke but they got it said

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anyway I had

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laid some careful groundwork

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I retained a copy of normally with the

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original copy

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maternity popular to another person

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unknown to anyone if something should

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happen to me or my favorite

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could it be prayer line

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and uh so I'd made a lot of groundwork a

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lot of little preparations which I want

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to go into right now in case doesn't

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happen

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there's some better amazing things

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happen

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and I guess in this particular area I

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had to teach you because I can't really

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tell you what happened

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uh I feel a little bashed by that but

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that's the way it is yeah I can say this

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it is a extreme

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sensitive area that I picked on

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and of course the subject as I had

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mentioned before retrievals of the Third

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Kind includes the retrievals of The

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Craft with the

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and the octopus

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I have at this point I can say

303
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much data on the retrieved hits now

304
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there's more than one we've always heard

305
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the famous one back in New Mexico the

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Aztec repair and perhaps another one in

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the west or church group perhaps all of

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you have heard using the form of rumors

309
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well I have 17 sources of information

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concerning a number of crashes

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throughout the United States exclusive

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exclusive with those overseas that I'm

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aware of

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these will be presented in my talk in

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Dayton and then since then I've added

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paid more

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sources which will not be in the paper

318
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some of these sources will be used in

319
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the form of agenda

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two of them are so super sensitive I'm

321
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not quite sure at this time if I can use

322
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them

323
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well I'll do it 100 percent

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[Music]

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then there's another source

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it all sums up for this the information

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I have right now surely as I'm standing

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here I guess that's standing uh

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[Music]

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so I know this the real look of at least

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one of them one cup

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does absolutely exist incontrovertibly

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exist

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and also

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say

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that incontrovertibly we have them

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we've had them in military custody since

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1947.

339
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that's one retrieval I'm aware of no

340
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occupants

341
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1948

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with occupants

343
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1952 1953 1957 1962 1973 and 1977.

344
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we have retrieved craft with octopus

345
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and there are more

346
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much of this day in our rearrate

347
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will be revealed in 17 abstracts paper

348
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possibility of using

349
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food grade perhaps for more

350
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and again I'll say that other

351
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information I have

352
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I don't think I'll be able to reveal it

353
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because it deals with

354
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that's sub super secret Above Top Secret

355
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and I

356
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that's the the outside of the circle of

357
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information

358
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I don't think I've gone or said too much

359
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I had planned to say this much and I

360
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don't know it seems to me it would be

361
00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:01,800
food will go into at this time of the

362
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with that information

363
00:16:09,050 --> 00:16:05,880
to go into a whole lot of

364
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sightings postal counters live encounter

365
00:16:13,250 --> 00:16:11,220
this two will be presented by Ted

366
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loacher who was second

367
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over eighteen hundred

368
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close encounter

369
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cases in this catalog live encounter

370
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this in itself is extremely interesting

371
00:16:28,490 --> 00:16:25,019
of course we'll be very fortunate to

372
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have Ted losher at the Yukon meeting

373
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to relate on that subject

374
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back the whole meeting should we age

375
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we have Dr heineck there who will again

376
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tell us if they're from another realm

377
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and we have

378
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major Keyhole will be there to uh I'm

379
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sure to relay his feelings about the Air

380
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Force

381
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and then dick Hall who was a very well

382
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informed researcher

383
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a good historian and the subject will be

384
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there to relate certain data as I

385
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understand it during a significant year

386
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in 1967

387
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in the course the title of March that

388
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because should be a very interesting

389
00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:08,400
meeting I talked to Dr heineck and about

390
00:17:13,210 --> 00:17:10,500
a week and a half ago before he

391
00:17:17,569 --> 00:17:13,220
was off for a short vacation in Italy

392
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and he extremely interested in what I

393
00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:19,919
the title in that paper

394
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I told him I was not in position to

395
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relate information especially over the

396
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telephone with him

397
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and he seemed really very interested

398
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and that we can of course realize why a

399
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man at this position as a doctor

400
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astronomy and so forth could not touch

401
00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:38,760
on the same subject today

402
00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:40,740
that's likely because of his scientific

403
00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:41,880
position

404
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:44,340
and uh the fact that he had been taught

405
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,559
scientific assault to the Air Force for

406
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20 years if he were to get up and

407
00:17:52,190 --> 00:17:50,460
daringly say the same thing as I planned

408
00:17:54,049 --> 00:17:52,200
by putting in the letter check of his

409
00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:54,059
position so I can appreciate

410
00:18:00,830 --> 00:17:56,580
this state has not been able to talk as

411
00:18:03,310 --> 00:18:00,840
freely as I have chosen to do

412
00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:03,320
but I decided and I've told several

413
00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:06,120
colleagues here this evening

414
00:18:12,409 --> 00:18:09,900
I'm going up there on that stage and

415
00:18:13,490 --> 00:18:12,419
present my case people have to crawl up

416
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,500
there

417
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:15,600
I plan to go through it

418
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:18,240
another announcement again sort of a

419
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:21,360
tease that I have one source

420
00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:24,480
outside of Ohio who has a what I

421
00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:26,640
consider a major document

422
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,039
and he is well aware of what I'm doing

423
00:18:33,409 --> 00:18:31,200
in fact he was reinforming one of my

424
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very important industries

425
00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:36,600
who hopes unless he's interfere with

426
00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:39,660
to present this document supported by

427
00:18:45,409 --> 00:18:42,480
clients

428
00:18:48,590 --> 00:18:45,419
get this paper plus what I plan to

429
00:18:50,450 --> 00:18:48,600
reveal all works out as we see it as of

430
00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:50,460
right now

431
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,580
you should become a major

432
00:18:57,289 --> 00:18:55,440
bit of news

433
00:19:01,909 --> 00:18:57,299
for the whole world

434
00:19:04,370 --> 00:19:01,919
certainly provocative certainly sobering

435
00:19:06,650 --> 00:19:04,380
use all sorts of adjectives

436
00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:06,660
I think a lot depends Earl and several

437
00:19:11,870 --> 00:19:08,700
of us discuss this just what will be the

438
00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:11,880
reaction of the media well we cannot

439
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:13,260
predict that

440
00:19:18,830 --> 00:19:16,799
Earl mentioned that perhaps would make

441
00:19:21,529 --> 00:19:18,840
it as far as date and newspapers or the

442
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,539
Cincinnati Columbus paper maybe Ohio

443
00:19:25,549 --> 00:19:23,280
and that'd be about it

444
00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:25,559
I really don't know how they'll react

445
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,740
yet there is a reaction to what we

446
00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:30,720
present relay

447
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:35,580
and it does make apup and CBS ABC and

448
00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:37,679
NBC

449
00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:40,860
I think it will raise proportions

450
00:19:44,990 --> 00:19:43,559
of a saucer Watergate

451
00:19:47,090 --> 00:19:45,000
I think there'll be senatorial

452
00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:47,100
investigations because they're going to

453
00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:49,740
have to disprove what I'm saying

454
00:19:54,289 --> 00:19:51,660
my only weakness and I admit this I

455
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,299
confess this in my papers

456
00:19:59,210 --> 00:19:57,360
that I have no affidavits to support the

457
00:20:01,490 --> 00:19:59,220
information I have

458
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,500
in most cases I cannot use names because

459
00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:04,320
of sensitivity of the material just

460
00:20:08,090 --> 00:20:06,120
understand

461
00:20:12,289 --> 00:20:08,100
this bank can be construed by the major

462
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,299
media as having a weak case

463
00:20:16,970 --> 00:20:14,640
then it would dependentarily

464
00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:16,980
on how reliable I am

465
00:20:21,650 --> 00:20:18,840
and hopefully I have been able to

466
00:20:26,210 --> 00:20:21,660
establish for some degree some

467
00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:26,220
credibility in my 28 years of research

468
00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:29,400
now again it'll be a major test to be a

469
00:20:34,850 --> 00:20:31,500
major interest to me and everyone I

470
00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:34,860
believe is a reaction in the media

471
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:36,900
I can anticipate the reaction of General

472
00:20:43,070 --> 00:20:40,799
researchers in the field

473
00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:43,080
and the general public I wouldn't dare

474
00:20:49,250 --> 00:20:46,740
predict but I think the first of all we

475
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,260
have to run over we as researchers and

476
00:20:54,650 --> 00:20:52,320
we we do number in a thousand

477
00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:54,660
if we get things moving there that's at

478
00:20:58,669 --> 00:20:56,700
least stepping in

479
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:58,679
a favor

480
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,200
but again it's still we have not

481
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:03,120
convinced the nation we're only talking

482
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,740
amongst or so this is what we've been

483
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:06,960
doing for years researchers you're

484
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,880
talking to researchers

485
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:10,559
what I'm trying to do is get to the

486
00:21:15,529 --> 00:21:13,679
public the masses the media

487
00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:15,539
if I can accomplish that something is

488
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,220
going to have to give

489
00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:19,440
them so it's going to be a good test I I

490
00:21:23,690 --> 00:21:21,480
don't know how to predict it I could get

491
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:23,700
shot down in a separate character

492
00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:25,919
assassination in the works

493
00:21:30,529 --> 00:21:27,960
and I'm willing to go forward I'll say

494
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,539
here now it's two months away and stand

495
00:21:35,149 --> 00:21:32,400
that risk

496
00:21:37,370 --> 00:21:35,159
because I believe what I say I know the

497
00:21:40,669 --> 00:21:37,380
information I got is from as far as I'm

498
00:21:43,370 --> 00:21:40,679
concerned unimpeachable sources

499
00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:43,380
we're going to go on again let's say I

500
00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:46,500
scrap my my top guy would normally my

501
00:21:51,230 --> 00:21:49,559
name I'm just talking at the beginning

502
00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:51,240
here right off the top of the head with

503
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:53,700
no re-prepared notes

504
00:21:59,390 --> 00:21:57,120
because I feel very sincere in what I'm

505
00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:01,490
I think without further Ado not going

506
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:04,440
into the whiteboards of research and

507
00:22:09,169 --> 00:22:06,840
many theories

508
00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:09,179
we have both sidings Close Encounters

509
00:22:13,130 --> 00:22:11,820
and all those interesting things I'm

510
00:22:15,289 --> 00:22:13,140
going to throw the meeting over to

511
00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:15,299
questions and answers and closely and

512
00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:17,100
I'll try to I'll try to answer them as

513
00:22:22,010 --> 00:22:18,900
honestly as possible

514
00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:22,020
uh realizing of course that there's a

515
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:23,700
lot of information that I cannot relate

516
00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:24,720
to you

517
00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:27,240
that of course that which is enclosed in

518
00:22:32,570 --> 00:22:30,360
my contents in my paper

519
00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:32,580
and that's my choice because I have to

520
00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:34,020
keep that information type of potential

521
00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:36,600
because I told the informants that it

522
00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:38,039
would not be revealed prior to that and

523
00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:39,419
also a great obstruction of the world

524
00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:43,380
Andrews to please abide by my wishes

525
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:45,240
and of course I

526
00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:48,240
and that's all about other data that I

527
00:22:52,610 --> 00:22:51,240
may use as a dentist so at this point

528
00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:52,620
I'll take a little drink of water and

529
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:54,500
we'll throw it out into his questions

530
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:57,360
hopefully answers

531
00:23:02,750 --> 00:23:00,720
I'm wondering if in your discourse

532
00:23:06,770 --> 00:23:02,760
throughout the times

533
00:23:11,210 --> 00:23:06,780
with whatever degree with a news media

534
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:11,220
are you experiencing or do you sense

535
00:23:18,649 --> 00:23:13,280
a hidden

536
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:18,659
subversive fear within the operators of

537
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,640
the media operators in the center of the

538
00:23:27,649 --> 00:23:25,440
underlings those who are not in control

539
00:23:28,669 --> 00:23:27,659
who are doing as they are told do you

540
00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:28,679
sense

541
00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:32,700
a hidden fear that they must acquiesce

542
00:23:39,770 --> 00:23:36,360
they must kowtow they must work within

543
00:23:42,169 --> 00:23:39,780
the defined framework as declared to

544
00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:42,179
them yes

545
00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:44,340
yes sir they do what they're told to do

546
00:23:48,649 --> 00:23:46,620
they're given an assignment in fact it's

547
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:48,659
very conceivable that uh

548
00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:51,120
NBC the major recipient is the major

549
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:53,460
national network programs

550
00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:55,140
they may have a man there representing

551
00:23:58,850 --> 00:23:56,760
NBC but it might be just for the local

552
00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:58,860
station

553
00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:01,500
but uh it's the real test will come if

554
00:24:06,649 --> 00:24:03,720
you see any part of any segment of this

555
00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:06,659
uh our performance on on a national

556
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,480
network certainly it's as interesting as

557
00:24:14,330 --> 00:24:12,000
some of the other news items they have

558
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:14,340
on the uh and after all this is rather

559
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:16,860
or shaking but I'm trying to relate

560
00:24:20,570 --> 00:24:19,020
if they do not use it it shows it points

561
00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:20,580
out something to me yes but I would say

562
00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:22,679
that people have signed the Ireland the

563
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:24,900
little man the field man

564
00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:27,840
cameraman uh he doesn't really have any

565
00:24:30,529 --> 00:24:29,220
choice he may go back with a beautiful

566
00:24:33,289 --> 00:24:30,539
story

567
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:33,299
and completely believe it

568
00:24:39,529 --> 00:24:36,360
but it's his boss who makes the decision

569
00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:39,539
and he is my not necessarily in Columbus

570
00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:41,640
or Dayton or Cleveland

571
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:44,100
officers but he is in Washington or New

572
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,880
York

573
00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:48,000
he decides what goes on there and

574
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:50,220
whether it's fit for the nation to think

575
00:24:54,049 --> 00:24:51,120
about

576
00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:54,059
and the same thing's true up there's no

577
00:24:58,990 --> 00:24:57,000
question that a local paper in Dayton or

578
00:25:01,970 --> 00:24:59,000
Cincinnati

579
00:25:04,010 --> 00:25:01,980
Grangeville Indianapolis Columbus and so

580
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:04,020
forth May pick it up and write a little

581
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,600
true story about here they'll treat it

582
00:25:11,330 --> 00:25:08,880
sort of objectively with a

583
00:25:13,070 --> 00:25:11,340
you know straight story or they'll have

584
00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:13,080
some fun with it know which origin of

585
00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:15,900
course is green men but in the cases I'm

586
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:17,820
aware of none of these characters need

587
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:21,960
beings or described as green

588
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:24,960
and uh so the answer guessed I would say

589
00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:27,000
it through the locals and we really have

590
00:25:31,549 --> 00:25:29,580
enough say the reporter could be very

591
00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:31,559
objective and extremely interested and

592
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:32,940
highly impressed but it doesn't mean

593
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,460
he'd go back and pull the newspaper have

594
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,960
you seen too much of his control through

595
00:25:41,649 --> 00:25:39,360
the years and I'm aware of it going back

596
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:41,659
28 years that the Press has at the

597
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:45,480
newswire level top levels has been

598
00:25:50,169 --> 00:25:48,120
working in coordination with their top

599
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:50,179
agencies United States in this regard

600
00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:52,260
otherwise we didn't know who they had

601
00:26:00,190 --> 00:25:53,580
the stories on the little man a long

602
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:03,250
are they still living

603
00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:05,940
no I is you're dealing with the

604
00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:07,580
deadlines

605
00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:10,200
no these were all there was rumors uh

606
00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:11,940
that they had a salute ones were kept

607
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,080
alive but I remember hearing the radio

608
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:15,840
it was fine uh one investigator I could

609
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:17,820
remember his name that they took one

610
00:26:22,669 --> 00:26:20,460
argument to uh like after Cardinal or

611
00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:22,679
something I've heard the rumors too

612
00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:25,620
through the years and uh I truly cannot

613
00:26:30,350 --> 00:26:27,659
substantiate that there is some

614
00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:30,360
suspicion of mine based on a few reports

615
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,380
that I had may have uh one in a living

616
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,720
State I cannot prove that

617
00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:39,120
the data was really gave to the rumor

618
00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:40,200
stage

619
00:26:45,769 --> 00:26:43,020
but I'm referring out to the those were

620
00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:45,779
ceased and those I know that have

621
00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:49,080
all these uh the sauces you have were a

622
00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:50,700
few of those are they or they all seem

623
00:26:54,409 --> 00:26:52,200
to be made the same type or are they

624
00:26:55,789 --> 00:26:54,419
different type one variation variation

625
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,799
what about the occupants are they

626
00:27:01,310 --> 00:26:58,320
thinking the same are they the same type

627
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:01,320
of means or a difference

628
00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:03,299
um I can only answer that limitably

629
00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:05,640
right now but they're they're generally

630
00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:08,760
size height three and a half to four and

631
00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:10,980
a half two

632
00:27:16,909 --> 00:27:15,270
and uh generally describe similarly

633
00:27:18,850 --> 00:27:16,919
[Music]

634
00:27:21,049 --> 00:27:18,860
with a few

635
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,059
features here and there a little skew

636
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:27,230
I know of your recent involvement in

637
00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:29,159
connection with the United Nations and

638
00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:31,500
trying to get their involvement

639
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:33,659
and particularly your involvement with

640
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:36,299
the political runaround and the

641
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,980
different ambassadors and government

642
00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:40,559
representatives in one sort of another

643
00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:43,260
you mentioned this evening that there

644
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,260
were quite a key possible crashes in the

645
00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:48,720
United States not counting the overseas

646
00:27:54,970 --> 00:27:52,860
defensive what I'm interested in is what

647
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,980
your contact with government

648
00:27:58,850 --> 00:27:57,360
representatives there at the um

649
00:28:01,610 --> 00:27:58,860
in particular

650
00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:01,620
what involvement is there what these

651
00:28:07,370 --> 00:28:04,440
various other countries how are they

652
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,380
able to keep this super secret

653
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:10,080
we work in many instances cooperatively

654
00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:11,640
in the United States have the same

655
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:14,520
suppression system there as we have

656
00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:16,620
they all have their equivalent for CIA

657
00:28:21,130 --> 00:28:18,539
and uh

658
00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:21,140
many of them were connected with us to

659
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:23,340
Nato of course we've worked

660
00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:25,080
cooperatively there

661
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:27,659
we have very close and I've had close

662
00:28:31,690 --> 00:28:30,080
Minds with England Australia New Zealand

663
00:28:34,850 --> 00:28:31,700
yeah

664
00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:34,860
we depend on us for our technology and

665
00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:36,059
wherewithal

666
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:38,340
proper research and there's 22 they're

667
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:41,100
good who weren't assured action in this

668
00:28:47,390 --> 00:28:43,799
area in reference to my work United

669
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:47,400
Nations for one week last winter I was

670
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,100
asked by the prime minister of Grenada

671
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,320
to work with his ambassadors and

672
00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:54,720
presenting hopefully

673
00:29:00,830 --> 00:28:57,539
at the United Nations 32nd assembly to

674
00:29:02,570 --> 00:29:00,840
introduce a committee a working group

675
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:02,580
within the United Nations and then he

676
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,860
gave me full support of that this was

677
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:06,320
known for the United States government

678
00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:10,559
and I even advised them on on a on the

679
00:29:15,649 --> 00:29:13,080
approach to the deputy medications and I

680
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:15,659
sat in all the meetings at the U.N

681
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:18,120
responsible the foreign delegates

682
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,460
and it was going on sort of behind the

683
00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:22,200
scenes I was realized in the United

684
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:25,080
States put much pressure I was right

685
00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:26,880
there when they called

686
00:29:41,889 --> 00:29:28,440
a

687
00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:41,899
they even

688
00:29:48,769 --> 00:29:45,419
referred to Grenada it's it's his

689
00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:48,779
position as far as human rights

690
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:51,419
it was not too much cooperation why they

691
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,520
could always refer to their human rights

692
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:56,159
to him this is a good wedge a good

693
00:30:00,529 --> 00:29:58,020
weapon used against Nations if they

694
00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:00,539
don't behave according the way we lie

695
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:02,580
this has been Carter's approach now what

696
00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:04,380
about human rights in South Africa Women

697
00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:06,120
rights here and there

698
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,220
and the same thing the same tourniquet

699
00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:10,880
was applied to Grenada because there was

700
00:30:16,669 --> 00:30:13,380
Intelligence information I was aware of

701
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:16,679
that they were like hanging back into

702
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,760
Chile

703
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:19,440
it's communist

704
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,559
I was with the prime minister of the

705
00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:24,539
Prime Minister sitting on the during his

706
00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:26,340
news conference

707
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:28,620
when he was drilled by two reporters on

708
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:29,520
this

709
00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:33,240
matter he emphatically denied that he

710
00:30:37,010 --> 00:30:35,100
says Grenada his people are highly

711
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:37,020
religious people they had no communist

712
00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:38,640
affiliations regards what the United

713
00:30:42,769 --> 00:30:41,220
States May charge I could see through

714
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,779
the whole thing because what we were

715
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:45,600
doing was playing to work on a great

716
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:49,080
delicate subject UFO this was not the

717
00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:51,000
time according to the U.S plan to talk

718
00:30:54,530 --> 00:30:53,399
about the US Dollar on the 33rd 32nd

719
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:54,540
assembly meditations

720
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:55,919
[Music]

721
00:31:01,730 --> 00:30:59,159
so we agree to modify the

722
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:01,740
protect the bar lights and hopefully

723
00:31:06,769 --> 00:31:04,980
we'll come back their third assembly in

724
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,779
September the coming year and do it all

725
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:08,399
over again

726
00:31:15,529 --> 00:31:11,880
and on this note

727
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:15,539
uh a week and a half ago since my uh the

728
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:18,440
title of my papers had become known

729
00:31:24,889 --> 00:31:22,500
publicly actually a word like that gets

730
00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,899
around pretty fast believe it

731
00:31:28,690 --> 00:31:27,480
I got a call from the ambassador of

732
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:28,700
Grenada

733
00:31:34,669 --> 00:31:31,380
who advised me at the Prime Minister

734
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:34,679
Sarah Gary will be in New York

735
00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:36,779
for four days

736
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:39,299
and would I please be able to find a way

737
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,460
to get to New York and have a private

738
00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:43,440
meeting with him

739
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,679
I had a decline because at that time my

740
00:31:51,049 --> 00:31:48,720
mother was in the hospital seriously ill

741
00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:51,059
I had more alternative but to be there

742
00:31:55,549 --> 00:31:53,159
and be with her so I told the Ambassador

743
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,559
that my circumstances that I could not

744
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,600
make it I regretted it perhaps another

745
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,760
time but I knew what the Prime Minister

746
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,919
was concerned about was the title of my

747
00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:04,559
paper and he may want to use that once

748
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:06,659
the paper is disclosed to the 33rd

749
00:32:11,450 --> 00:32:08,520
assembly which he would be entitled to

750
00:32:13,789 --> 00:32:11,460
but by that time be Public Power

751
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:13,799
however what I will not give to the

752
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:16,919
prime minister is the additional data

753
00:32:21,789 --> 00:32:19,140
that I'm aware of

754
00:32:23,950 --> 00:32:21,799
which is even more sensitive

755
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:23,960
yes

756
00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:27,120
Bob only I guess not everybody that a

757
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:29,580
lot of the people here know I I with

758
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,120
NASA and I've told them many times in

759
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,799
any essay

760
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:37,200
keeps few secrets

761
00:32:46,669 --> 00:32:42,720
in that the information that

762
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:46,679
they had stock officially it's been

763
00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:50,640
widely disseminated but the you you've

764
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:53,940
suggested that there are six maybe seven

765
00:33:01,010 --> 00:32:57,120
or right even cap how many of these

766
00:33:03,409 --> 00:33:01,020
retrievals but even more than one uh

767
00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:03,419
makes me ask the question that I think

768
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:11,950
at this time and that is uh

769
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:14,960
where these retrievals

770
00:33:19,389 --> 00:33:16,880
made

771
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,399
at several

772
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,080
disparate places across the country and

773
00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:24,960
different groups of Air Force personnel

774
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:26,279
involved

775
00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:38,460
who have at least 150 people

776
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:41,820
would be aware of the first hand

777
00:33:48,289 --> 00:33:45,440
excited and confrontation to have to

778
00:33:51,289 --> 00:33:48,299
abide by

779
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:51,299
all the security regulations so over a

780
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:54,600
large period of time right uh could you

781
00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:57,600
tonight well we maintain the Manhattan

782
00:34:01,970 --> 00:33:59,820
Project with several thousand people and

783
00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:01,980
we're able we're very successful in

784
00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:03,779
keeping

785
00:34:07,789 --> 00:34:05,640
the uh

786
00:34:10,129 --> 00:34:07,799
the main bit of information concerning

787
00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:10,139
that project away from the public

788
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:12,300
when there were many enemy errors listed

789
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:13,980
again that I think we were very

790
00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:15,480
successful there

791
00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:17,099
for the thousands of people on

792
00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:18,419
involvement and development of

793
00:34:23,149 --> 00:34:19,820
retirement plan

794
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:23,159
it's not quite that difficult to

795
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,440
maintain

796
00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:26,879
around a thousand people as well with

797
00:34:30,889 --> 00:34:28,440
top security especially when they aren't

798
00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:30,899
assigned letters after signing their

799
00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:32,040
wives away

800
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,980
to do or to reveal it and this this is

801
00:34:41,649 --> 00:34:37,919
but this is not too bad okay part of the

802
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:41,659
question I mentioned you have Dr Phil

803
00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:44,399
environments and credit through these

804
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,460
informants could you get an idea of how

805
00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:49,440
many people might be involved or how

806
00:35:11,349 --> 00:34:51,540
many groups of investigators might be

807
00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:15,230
security police officers or whatever

808
00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:17,220
team they were this is not a difficult

809
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:18,540
to answer because actually it would not

810
00:35:23,089 --> 00:35:22,079
be a position to really know the number

811
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,099
but

812
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:25,920
I suppose the logistics involved in a

813
00:35:31,069 --> 00:35:27,920
retrieval would require a number of

814
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:31,079
people with some good muscles it's a

815
00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:32,160
good Machinery that would have been

816
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:36,359
there and uh I could say that to people

817
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:38,460
I'm guessing but probably involved with

818
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:41,119
all the retrievals

819
00:35:46,329 --> 00:35:43,740
since retrievals began would probably

820
00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:46,339
not exceed over a thousand people now

821
00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:49,320
technical people people in the medical

822
00:35:55,609 --> 00:35:52,460
area or Specialists of Metallurgy

823
00:35:58,730 --> 00:35:55,619
whatever people of that kind would be

824
00:36:00,890 --> 00:35:58,740
these people could be worked with pretty

825
00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:00,900
reasonably and would maintain a secret

826
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:03,060
now you're losing times will come

827
00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:06,240
amongst those who were doing the

828
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:09,540
LeBron were heavywear truck drivers the

829
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:12,380
egg you type do it again

830
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:14,700
these people are available who would be

831
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:17,820
very willing to keep that secret and it

832
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:21,060
is it doesn't exceed a thousand or so

833
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,160
I would admit that if you got involved

834
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,440
with 50 000 people it was pretty

835
00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:27,839
difficult to maintain a secret even with

836
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:30,740
that thousand or slightly more

837
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:32,760
involved I have been able to get

838
00:36:41,470 --> 00:36:36,060
information from 27 of them

839
00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:44,030
only recently their interaction that

840
00:36:49,490 --> 00:36:46,500
might go to the million a thousand might

841
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:49,500
be in advance so I was interested in

842
00:36:58,190 --> 00:36:56,690
the shipped here and there and

843
00:37:01,310 --> 00:36:58,200
everything

844
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:01,320
comment on that too I I do believe that

845
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:08,569
specialize in this type of work who move

846
00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:10,260
when a woman's nose to any area and

847
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:13,380
their retrieval necessary

848
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,130
now these retrievals are we to assume

849
00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:30,480
that most of these are shot down or half

850
00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:32,339
of them are the mechanical failures or

851
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:35,640
what uh that's a that's a question that

852
00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:36,720
I have

853
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,000
uh no one has been able to clarify that

854
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:41,760
me I'm assuming that these were due from

855
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:44,880
uh malfunctioning I have truthfully no

856
00:37:50,329 --> 00:37:47,579
knowledge and I could be wrong uh no

857
00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:50,339
knowledge of any uh Christ you have to

858
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:53,820
be resolved of our firing missiles or

859
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,349
I'm assuming therefore

860
00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:02,960
that these were

861
00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:05,640
malfunctions one for one reason or

862
00:38:10,670 --> 00:38:07,980
another which to me indicates that the

863
00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:10,680
real real goal is not an imperfect

864
00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:13,260
machine I have wondered for many years

865
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:15,240
in my early research that the UFOs could

866
00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:16,980
make no mistakes therefore they must be

867
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:18,660
prevented dimensioning or whatever they

868
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:20,099
just don't make mistakes but now I

869
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:31,310
[Music]

870
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:34,010
so these may be uh mindaroam

871
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:35,760
intentionally just to provide us a

872
00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:44,089
I doubt that intentional righteous

873
00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:46,140
because in some instances we're aware of

874
00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:47,640
the fact that some of the bodies were

875
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:49,619
charred

876
00:38:55,370 --> 00:38:52,260
pretty little bird

877
00:38:58,190 --> 00:38:55,380
you know I can understand the secrecy

878
00:38:59,810 --> 00:38:58,200
behind the Manhattan Project but I don't

879
00:39:02,710 --> 00:38:59,820
think that I understand the secrecy

880
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:02,720
behind an International

881
00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:06,060
Security of the down craft in their

882
00:39:12,349 --> 00:39:09,320
occupants could you speculate or

883
00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:12,359
Enlighten Us in that direction it was

884
00:39:17,329 --> 00:39:14,220
hilarious one of the questions that I

885
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,339
had too because I'm aware of a crash in

886
00:39:22,210 --> 00:39:20,160
England and of course the famous

887
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:22,220
Pittsburgh is okay

888
00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:28,430
and uh

889
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:33,380
there again uh we do have our operatives

890
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:35,700
former tempees who were able to get

891
00:39:41,470 --> 00:39:38,880
there and offer of systems and we do

892
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:41,480
know we have held over the many years

893
00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:44,400
a certain amount of power

894
00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:46,140
in the world

895
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:47,880
with a

896
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:50,760
small nation May Consultants knowing

897
00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:53,400
that we do have a technical setup for

898
00:39:58,490 --> 00:39:55,140
researching this area that they can

899
00:40:00,490 --> 00:39:58,500
solve and those who do not

900
00:40:03,550 --> 00:40:00,500
really care to

901
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:03,560
correlate with us cooperate and always

902
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,320
through our secret operatives relate to

903
00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:09,540
certain areas of them

904
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,640
economy

905
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:13,920
so that we can always use that as a as

906
00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:15,290
it means

907
00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:16,740
[Music]

908
00:40:21,950 --> 00:40:19,560
helping their economy or otherwise

909
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:21,960
especially with small Nations

910
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:23,640
there are all sorts of ways in Maine

911
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,500
diplomatically and politically and

912
00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:27,119
economically that we can deal with a

913
00:40:33,650 --> 00:40:29,700
nation who may want to be recalcitated

914
00:40:36,410 --> 00:40:33,660
in a in a uh in a very sensitive area

915
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:36,420
however on the other hand too looking at

916
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,560
it this way and there's all sorts of

917
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:39,359
ways of looking at that because the

918
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:41,460
United States has so much technology

919
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,040
especially in the west there will be a

920
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:46,560
lot of testing these could be the areas

921
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:48,540
most sensitive because this would be the

922
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:49,740
area they would like to know what we're

923
00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:51,300
doing and keep us under heavy

924
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:52,680
surveillance

925
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,020
I am aware of the fact too that most of

926
00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:57,599
our some of our most significant Close

927
00:41:02,450 --> 00:40:59,940
Encounters and Landings

928
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:02,460
have occurred on military installations

929
00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:05,280
nuclear installations and missile sites

930
00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:07,380
in the United States and important

931
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,060
countries

932
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,520
so if there's curiosity in these areas

933
00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:13,200
therefore there have been preponderance

934
00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:15,420
of UFOs also in these areas and also

935
00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:17,640
thereby a greater chance for a crash

936
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,260
incidents in each of these sensitive

937
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,119
Americans

938
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:23,760
I cannot give a positive answer but this

939
00:41:28,849 --> 00:41:26,640
is generally speaking on the house but

940
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:28,859
where is it all operating more directly

941
00:41:34,849 --> 00:41:32,040
I was interested in why the need for the

942
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:34,859
security security

943
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:39,200
well why is your secrecy all right

944
00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:42,900
that's many many answers to that one uh

945
00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:46,440
one the the old throwback when the CIA

946
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,060
believed that there'd be a cultural shot

947
00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:50,400
back in the 50s and therefore

948
00:41:54,050 --> 00:41:52,140
the public was not prepared for this

949
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:54,060
sort of thing therefore say nothing deny

950
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,560
everything that's created and atmosphere

951
00:42:01,130 --> 00:41:57,680
is all the Robinson panels say nothing

952
00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:01,140
better what means we need to keep the

953
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:03,240
information down do it

954
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,720
and that would of course the ideas would

955
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:08,960
compare the corporate shock

956
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:12,060
psychological Panic or philosophical

957
00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:14,820
Panic or whatever that would be that's

958
00:42:18,890 --> 00:42:17,160
the old popular reason for surprising

959
00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:18,900
such information which could have been

960
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,000
applicable through the years

961
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:23,520
uh there's another aspect to it and I'd

962
00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:26,880
like to speculate here that uh if we've

963
00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:30,300
had these retrievals of a craft going

964
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:34,380
back as far as 48 30 50s you you

965
00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:35,700
certainly would expect our government

966
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:38,760
not to fall go to sleep at the switch

967
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:40,500
and there would therefore be some

968
00:42:47,329 --> 00:42:43,680
attempt to duplicate some of the items

969
00:42:48,849 --> 00:42:47,339
in there whatever degree and if there

970
00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:48,859
were duplications

971
00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:51,540
instead of pieces equipment or the crack

972
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,400
itself or nationally that would be kept

973
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:55,200
secret in fact top secret

974
00:43:00,349 --> 00:42:57,660
and that would be another reason

975
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:00,359
why we will be sick and certainly a

976
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:03,420
vowel because we are going to be working

977
00:43:07,370 --> 00:43:05,700
competition with Russian so to speak

978
00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:07,380
against China and why

979
00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:09,420
but they are also gathering information

980
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:11,400
in kind of sort of a contest in that

981
00:43:13,790 --> 00:43:12,900
area so that would be a very valid

982
00:43:14,750 --> 00:43:13,800
reason

983
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:14,760
information

984
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:17,460
it's also possible to think okay they

985
00:43:20,329 --> 00:43:18,900
have a lot of information concerning

986
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:20,339
about the crab

987
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:22,260
some idea where they're from being

988
00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:23,940
extraterrestrial

989
00:43:27,890 --> 00:43:25,859
they don't know the intent

990
00:43:30,109 --> 00:43:27,900
and if they don't know the internet and

991
00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:30,119
they announced to the public that they

992
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:32,040
knew about the craft of some degree that

993
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,660
they exist and a little bit of

994
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,280
information about that and yes they

995
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:38,160
they're actually professional but when

996
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:39,660
the press press stand for information

997
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,640
wirelessly here they couldn't answer it

998
00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:43,440
then this would have been created an

999
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,480
atmosphere of even more fear

1000
00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:47,280
public mind so that would be a good

1001
00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:49,740
reason so you've got all these reasons

1002
00:43:54,530 --> 00:43:51,960
why there would be a secrecy or take all

1003
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:54,540
and put them together so I believe the

1004
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:57,359
National Security Council of those who

1005
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,760
make decisions in this area we consider

1006
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:01,920
all those viewpoints and making the

1007
00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:05,640
decision for for secrecy until of course

1008
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,579
I was building up now I think there's a

1009
00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:11,280
realization at this point that there's

1010
00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:14,520
enough think they are working on ways

1011
00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:17,060
and means to bring the public into

1012
00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:19,859
their confidence and we may see more of

1013
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:22,260
this before the years now

1014
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:29,210
would you know but yet everyone else was

1015
00:44:32,329 --> 00:44:30,540
seeing this but they don't they just

1016
00:44:34,569 --> 00:44:32,339
know what they did how do they sleep at

1017
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:36,650
the people that are sitting back that

1018
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:39,900
know this may know this week that's why

1019
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,180
I can't sleep at night's anymore I mean

1020
00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:44,220
I know I've seen something I know I I

1021
00:44:53,150 --> 00:44:46,140
mean I know how it feels how would all

1022
00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:53,950
um

1023
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,339
uh yes that's

1024
00:45:02,990 --> 00:44:58,640
I thought it has affected some people

1025
00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:03,000
but you take a uh a hard military man as

1026
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:04,980
an example those who have been in combat

1027
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:07,980
have seen death and all that sort of

1028
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:09,420
thing

1029
00:45:14,510 --> 00:45:12,240
um Pat is able to develop a sort of a

1030
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:14,520
callous attitude toward whatever it is

1031
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:15,780
in other words you have to go out and

1032
00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:17,460
face that

1033
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,280
and during a war and you build up a

1034
00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:23,280
certain amount of immunity to uh that

1035
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,520
sort of thing and you can take it even

1036
00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:28,560
if it's something so dramatic something

1037
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,560
so different well I I since I've learned

1038
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,079
quite a bit here recently I've felt very

1039
00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:36,240
nervous about it even though I thought I

1040
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:37,980
knew the answers some year oh my life

1041
00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:40,560
you know for the last 28 years but as I

1042
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:43,560
mentioned here at today was the last

1043
00:45:50,109 --> 00:45:46,920
hour I I feel uneasy and nervous with it

1044
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:50,119
and true

1045
00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:52,859
about the gender

1046
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:55,740
of the PTS

1047
00:46:02,750 --> 00:45:59,760
as you know it or is that still yeah it

1048
00:46:05,569 --> 00:46:02,760
still is sorry sorry no no it's a good

1049
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:05,579
question because I'm trying to uh a

1050
00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:08,520
little bit more there too and uh what I

1051
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,099
have is really not

1052
00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:13,200
too much I mean if you're comment on it

1053
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,440
I'm trying to get this episode she said

1054
00:46:22,569 --> 00:46:19,200
gender so we know right there yeah we

1055
00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:22,579
we're sending unless they're all clones

1056
00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:25,560
that they have the same organs that we

1057
00:46:29,950 --> 00:46:26,700
do

1058
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:29,960
there seems to be a division of Interest

1059
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:33,780
beside me the pure UFO and Bigfoot and

1060
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:36,180
possibly one or two uh trailing off

1061
00:46:45,170 --> 00:46:43,250
father government is only interested in

1062
00:46:48,109 --> 00:46:45,180
the hardware

1063
00:46:49,970 --> 00:46:48,119
they're not interested in these uh valid

1064
00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:49,980
enough reports a big one

1065
00:46:56,569 --> 00:46:53,940
I agree we do have valid reports in

1066
00:46:58,130 --> 00:46:56,579
Pittsburgh uh I don't know the I don't

1067
00:47:01,390 --> 00:46:58,140
know the relationship the real

1068
00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:01,400
relationship between

1069
00:47:06,349 --> 00:47:03,780
UFO although we literally have

1070
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,359
information that's seen

1071
00:47:11,150 --> 00:47:08,880
to put the two together in the line the

1072
00:47:14,170 --> 00:47:11,160
two and some way we have we have both

1073
00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:14,180
sidings and the same crop area Bigfoot

1074
00:47:20,089 --> 00:47:18,300
but we really don't have any of them to

1075
00:47:22,849 --> 00:47:20,099
my knowledge release and Ted losers

1076
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:22,859
catalogs 1800 cases where a big

1077
00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:26,220
equipment scene either leaving a UFO or

1078
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:28,140
boarding one whereas we do have a little

1079
00:47:31,550 --> 00:47:30,300
character seem to do these various

1080
00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:31,560
things

1081
00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:33,000
unless

1082
00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:35,160
I think that has been

1083
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:37,560
designed by them who come here to do a

1084
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:40,079
certain thing and make himself a million

1085
00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:42,180
always say one time bigfoot was not only

1086
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:44,040
at the northern Canada in the Northwest

1087
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:45,960
Sasquatch

1088
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,200
and uh we're the last name

1089
00:47:54,109 --> 00:47:51,599
15 years Bigfoot has suddenly become

1090
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,119
ubiquitous I mean he's Pennsylvania and

1091
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:55,920
all over the place he's in Ohio and

1092
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,140
Oklahoma he's everywhere and that's

1093
00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:00,180
pretty hard to account for why he became

1094
00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:03,060
so everywhere

1095
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,339
uh from these little corner up in the

1096
00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:07,920
Northwest and uh I cannot account for

1097
00:48:15,170 --> 00:48:11,880
that uh unless he this being has been

1098
00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:15,180
developed or they have a counterpart to

1099
00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:17,400
it or took it and developed it for some

1100
00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:20,099
reason this is strict speculation and

1101
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:21,180
then through them all over the United

1102
00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:23,520
States into each thing whatever that may

1103
00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:24,900
be great I don't know what he's doing or

1104
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,520
when he's ever in Derby Retreats he

1105
00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:29,280
doesn't really do anything he's not he's

1106
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:31,740
not posture well you'd be at all a man

1107
00:48:38,050 --> 00:48:34,140
of old to a guest that they put is

1108
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:38,060
indeed genetic manipulation genetic

1109
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,560
experimentation genetic engineering on

1110
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:42,960
the part all the intelligences

1111
00:48:47,390 --> 00:48:45,420
yeah I would say it's disabled but I had

1112
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,400
no information to support it this would

1113
00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:49,280
supplant a a

1114
00:48:55,609 --> 00:48:52,920
misconceived idea of certain interested

1115
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,619
parties in our levels that could these

1116
00:49:00,050 --> 00:48:58,079
Harry creatures be the pilots of these

1117
00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:00,060
crafts I don't think this is the

1118
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,819
inference uh no the I think the pilots

1119
00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:04,800
of The Craft or the or the entities that

1120
00:49:08,270 --> 00:49:06,660
I had described in my you know as

1121
00:49:13,569 --> 00:49:08,280
occupants in mind which I'm describing

1122
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,250
merely a byproduct of it would be used

1123
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,240
for certain reason for as per testing

1124
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,280
purposes sometimes

1125
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,319
for surveillance purposes that we would

1126
00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:24,000
understand

1127
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:26,579
that is if that's what the case may be

1128
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:29,280
but I think we have to go back to the

1129
00:49:34,609 --> 00:49:32,280
old Indian stories of Sasquatch

1130
00:49:36,190 --> 00:49:34,619
same thing's true of Yeti

1131
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:36,200
and lion

1132
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:39,540
uh we don't have the old Sasquatch so

1133
00:49:43,609 --> 00:49:41,400
yeah he may be a throwback but man we

1134
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:43,619
don't know maybe a primitive type and a

1135
00:49:47,329 --> 00:49:44,760
good resolution

1136
00:49:49,130 --> 00:49:47,339
uh however the reports especially those

1137
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:49,140
from Pennsylvania

1138
00:49:54,410 --> 00:49:52,319
indicate the exchange Gardens research

1139
00:49:57,230 --> 00:49:54,420
that there could be something exciting

1140
00:49:59,210 --> 00:49:57,240
about the uh Bigfoot's appearance it

1141
00:50:02,290 --> 00:49:59,220
does have lesser toes I believe my

1142
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:02,300
correct in the Sasquatch unless toe

1143
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,240
but anyway these are observed with large

1144
00:50:10,670 --> 00:50:08,880
glaring eyes and uh behave a little

1145
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:10,680
differently than the

1146
00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:15,240
the earlier Sasquatch type and frankly I

1147
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:16,980
don't know how to really account for

1148
00:50:22,930 --> 00:50:20,460
that I mean it has not set a part of my

1149
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:22,940
research as far as the retrieved

1150
00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:27,000
UFOs and the uh there's no Affinity to

1151
00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:29,700
my knowledge could be a big book can you

1152
00:50:35,870 --> 00:50:33,180
bring the doctor I need uh so far as the

1153
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:35,880
manipulations are concerned he feels

1154
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:38,160
they have nothing whatsoever to do with

1155
00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:42,240
any craft or obstacles uh that's Dr

1156
00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:46,440
heinek's respect I don't remember but

1157
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:48,500
there were alerts you know

1158
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:52,380
by various states in the west uh because

1159
00:50:58,609 --> 00:50:56,220
of the intensity and then so much of it

1160
00:51:00,589 --> 00:50:58,619
was suppressed the logically not you

1161
00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:00,599
know certain type of thing that you want

1162
00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:02,760
to read about in the paper here today

1163
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,880
but again this is mysterious is the uh

1164
00:51:11,569 --> 00:51:08,160
but but we have the

1165
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:11,579
mutilation cases again sometimes in

1166
00:51:17,930 --> 00:51:14,760
association with the UFOs

1167
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:17,940
and the so-called mystery helicopters

1168
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:21,119
and uh there we have no more positive

1169
00:51:25,609 --> 00:51:22,559
information nor can we make any

1170
00:51:26,770 --> 00:51:25,619
conclusions and I think the case must

1171
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:26,780
rest

1172
00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:30,660
uh there until there is more inclusive I

1173
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:33,480
I certainly do not have it in that area

1174
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:37,760
I'm very interested are you aware of any

1175
00:51:42,370 --> 00:51:40,680
duplications of any of the boundary

1176
00:51:48,609 --> 00:51:42,380
defaults

1177
00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:51,530
I'm trying to find areas where I think

1178
00:51:54,890 --> 00:51:52,500
you could

1179
00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:54,900
if you don't wish to expand upon here

1180
00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:57,900
with us you'll be expected to expand

1181
00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:02,160
upon July but as to have uh I'm trying

1182
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:05,900
to think of what types of questions

1183
00:52:13,569 --> 00:52:10,079
you want to be able to comment and in my

1184
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,579
mind is to resolve the family doctor 20

1185
00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:15,920
26 people

1186
00:52:23,930 --> 00:52:19,380
in some way associated with these

1187
00:52:26,569 --> 00:52:23,940
retrievals if and One Direction as I

1188
00:52:29,150 --> 00:52:26,579
suggested uh you could be expected to go

1189
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:29,160
and it would be to find out who they

1190
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:32,160
knew that how big a group they were

1191
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:35,520
working with and how many areas or what

1192
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,460
Air Force bases were involved in in any

1193
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:40,800
of the investigations and I'm not

1194
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,380
expecting any further answers in that

1195
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:46,079
regard but I think I would expect that

1196
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,630
maybe not

1197
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:55,920
um Air Force Base is uh

1198
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:58,140
is a pretty big place you're not really

1199
00:53:06,049 --> 00:53:00,720
tying anybody down very exactly it's

1200
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,059
good as to who people were who were

1201
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,880
talking to you but uh what was the

1202
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:10,800
another another way to look at the

1203
00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:14,339
question then would be not just how many

1204
00:53:20,210 --> 00:53:17,300
people were involved in the project but

1205
00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:20,220
in the area of establishing The

1206
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,020
credibility of the people who are

1207
00:53:29,329 --> 00:53:25,200
talking to you and your mind to do that

1208
00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:29,339
I think your biggest problem I would

1209
00:53:33,950 --> 00:53:32,220
guess would be is to whether some

1210
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:33,960
individual were involved in some

1211
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:36,480
retrieval projects that were highly

1212
00:53:43,069 --> 00:53:40,200
classified that he gets what is

1213
00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:43,079
associated with the UFO but he didn't

1214
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:44,280
really know

1215
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,500
people are very impressionable you know

1216
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:49,200
I work for a top secret place I I came

1217
00:53:55,089 --> 00:53:52,800
this close to a top secret project and

1218
00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:55,099
it's pretty tough

1219
00:54:01,370 --> 00:53:58,440
you've had to establish in your own mind

1220
00:54:04,730 --> 00:54:01,380
that the people hadn't misconstrued what

1221
00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:04,740
they were involved with and doing that's

1222
00:54:10,190 --> 00:54:07,800
a a right comment on that the other end

1223
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:10,200
of the picture is you'd have to get this

1224
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,220
script someplace and deposit it this is

1225
00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:16,559
very difficult

1226
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,609
patients or certain things that just

1227
00:54:32,569 --> 00:54:30,720
occurred but without you should have

1228
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:32,579
taken

1229
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,960
back where they ended up uh staging area

1230
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:39,359
uh what was done what we've seen in that

1231
00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:41,880
particular area

1232
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:44,220
where they were sent for some instances

1233
00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:48,660
for further research medically

1234
00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:50,520
uh

1235
00:54:57,250 --> 00:54:52,800
in many instances where a Specialists

1236
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:57,260
were sent in to check the metals

1237
00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:00,559
as a specialist

1238
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,780
certainly man with that we're in close

1239
00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:05,760
proximity of a

1240
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,980
we trade UFO

1241
00:55:13,609 --> 00:55:10,079
would know whether he was working on a

1242
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:13,619
radish airplane or a disc

1243
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,319
and when a description of the UFO is

1244
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,780
given this precise size the position of

1245
00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:20,880
the hatches and the interior

1246
00:55:26,569 --> 00:55:24,540
was supporting photographs of the words

1247
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,579
which I have

1248
00:55:31,609 --> 00:55:29,040
is good enough for me

1249
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,619
now again the the weakness that I have

1250
00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:33,359
is not being able to use his name but

1251
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,220
again

1252
00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:37,680
my the weight of my my case was in the

1253
00:55:43,609 --> 00:55:42,410
if I were to come out with first four

1254
00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:43,619
cases

1255
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:45,660
it would be quite a strong but hopefully

1256
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:49,200
not being able to use the names for most

1257
00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:50,880
of the better incidents it's

1258
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:52,140
understandable they'll have to go along

1259
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:53,640
with us

1260
00:55:57,470 --> 00:55:55,859
who

1261
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,480
you promised there it would be something

1262
00:56:02,569 --> 00:56:00,000
I wouldn't do whether I have my name

1263
00:56:05,569 --> 00:56:02,579
Spirit or not because I think what I'm

1264
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:05,579
doing at this stage is something no one

1265
00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:08,220
else has ever attempted to do

1266
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:10,740
and I feel like doing this much is the

1267
00:56:15,770 --> 00:56:12,300
beginning and there's always a

1268
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:15,780
possibility that the later date

1269
00:56:19,370 --> 00:56:17,640
if you have a month after that two

1270
00:56:22,370 --> 00:56:19,380
months so

1271
00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:22,380
I will present a second paper to certain

1272
00:56:26,690 --> 00:56:24,500
channels with additional information

1273
00:56:28,670 --> 00:56:26,700
perhapsulating the names

1274
00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:28,680
because I tell you this I feel as over

1275
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:31,020
climate is changing

1276
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:33,119
in that there may be more revealed than

1277
00:56:36,829 --> 00:56:34,920
the due course

1278
00:56:41,329 --> 00:56:36,839
and perhaps I might be in a position to

1279
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:44,809
here when I've read twice at least two

1280
00:56:49,630 --> 00:56:48,240
gentlemen in France the allegedly were

1281
00:56:53,930 --> 00:56:49,640
able to

1282
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:53,940
duplicate the propulsion theory of the

1283
00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:02,210
can you name the dude I think I know who

1284
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:04,380
you mean I met them

1285
00:57:09,530 --> 00:57:07,440
I've talked for they expired their

1286
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:09,540
theories in this regard at a conference

1287
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:15,290
sort of a closed door meeting I was

1288
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:16,980
privileged to attend that I listened to

1289
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:19,800
a complete discourse in this Mary which

1290
00:57:24,109 --> 00:57:21,660
to me was very intriguing however I'm

1291
00:57:24,849 --> 00:57:24,119
not a physicist and more what I

1292
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:24,859
understand

1293
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,099
uh that their progressions or ideas were

1294
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,680
sound or otherwise

1295
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:33,839
certainly sounded good to me

1296
00:57:40,270 --> 00:57:35,880
but I would not be in position for

1297
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:40,280
criticize their their Theory and

1298
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:44,240
certainly the what they had

1299
00:57:48,890 --> 00:57:45,440
[Music]

1300
00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:48,900
was seemingly understood by those in the

1301
00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:52,200
qualified area look good to them people

1302
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:55,319
in a position they experience was to

1303
00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:58,319
consider their the matter the papers

1304
00:58:02,510 --> 00:57:59,880
look good

1305
00:58:07,930 --> 00:58:02,520
and that's about all I can say but I'm

1306
00:58:14,030 --> 00:58:11,750
in regards to the ETS that do you have

1307
00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:14,040
much evidence of a medical examination

1308
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:16,020
all the fact that they maybe have the

1309
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,520
same type of flesh and blood that we

1310
00:58:21,849 --> 00:58:19,920
have and so anything that I'm aware of

1311
00:58:26,930 --> 00:58:21,859
certain uh

1312
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,940
details of the general configuration and

1313
00:58:29,770 --> 00:58:27,839
the

1314
00:58:34,849 --> 00:58:29,780
certain

1315
00:58:36,730 --> 00:58:34,859
parents facial appearance of the

1316
00:58:39,049 --> 00:58:36,740
of the being

1317
00:58:40,849 --> 00:58:39,059
at this time I could reveal nothing

1318
00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:40,859
medically

1319
00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:43,260
about these things

1320
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:45,900
maybe sometime in the future

1321
00:58:52,430 --> 00:58:48,480
but right now

1322
00:58:54,890 --> 00:58:52,440
I prefer not to mention or the possible

1323
00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:54,900
of learning more efficiently a very

1324
00:58:59,089 --> 00:58:57,420
vital area to me and that I want to

1325
00:58:59,930 --> 00:58:59,099
learn nor better not revealed but I do

1326
00:59:02,450 --> 00:58:59,940
have a

1327
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:02,460
drawing here that I've made is a

1328
00:59:08,510 --> 00:59:05,040
composite

1329
00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:08,520
of the I can't but we have this your

1330
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:10,680
duplication at this time

1331
00:59:16,670 --> 00:59:14,640
but uh this is the a composite of a of

1332
00:59:19,789 --> 00:59:16,680
the facial features

1333
00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:19,799
of a feature of a

1334
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:24,470
generally speaking

1335
00:59:29,089 --> 00:59:27,000
a little give and take here and there

1336
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:29,099
and I think I might be in a position to

1337
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,500
comment on that in about two more months

1338
00:59:36,589 --> 00:59:34,559
am I allowed to ask you one question uh

1339
00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:36,599
the way they breathe they breathe like

1340
00:59:46,030 --> 00:59:44,690
I could stand here and conjecture on a

1341
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:46,040
lot of things

1342
00:59:51,289 --> 00:59:49,500
and my my guess would be guesses and

1343
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:51,299
they could be completely wrong in the

1344
00:59:55,370 --> 00:59:52,400
ruins

1345
00:59:58,010 --> 00:59:55,380
and I'd rather be the reticent in these

1346
01:00:00,289 --> 00:59:58,020
areas and come out in sensationalize I

1347
01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:00,299
think I've done that enough I think I've

1348
01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:02,220
sensationalized already by them bringing

1349
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:04,200
out the subject without giving you any

1350
01:00:10,609 --> 01:00:07,920
more details but hopefully in time or at

1351
01:00:14,690 --> 01:00:10,619
least by July 29th I will have even more

1352
01:00:17,150 --> 01:00:14,700
data to put in my uh Roundup for the

1353
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:17,160
wind up of the papers that I have now

1354
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:19,200
I'm not leaving this open how I'm going

1355
01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:21,359
to end my yeah because the reason I ask

1356
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:23,400
you that is the one figure that I saw in

1357
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,920
the sign I had but I could see like

1358
01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:27,839
where we normally we breathe the bar now

1359
01:00:30,650 --> 01:00:29,579
I could see you know the part right

1360
01:00:33,849 --> 01:00:30,660
through here would be gone back and

1361
01:00:37,010 --> 01:00:33,859
forth breathing somehow through here

1362
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:37,020
in my home well I don't think anyone

1363
01:00:40,849 --> 01:00:39,359
would be good at this time we can only

1364
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:40,859
conjectures

1365
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,119
again if the intelligence is

1366
01:00:49,549 --> 01:00:48,240
so far Advanced over us so many ways

1367
01:00:51,170 --> 01:00:49,559
technically

1368
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,180
the clouds will be awesome to be

1369
01:00:56,990 --> 01:00:53,520
advanced in the area of excitements

1370
01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:57,000
and having possession of that gift he

1371
01:01:00,049 --> 01:00:58,740
would probably be controlling their

1372
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:00,059
minds

1373
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,040
letting us see what they wanted to see

1374
01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:04,079
for what it enrolled ulterior purposes

1375
01:01:08,030 --> 01:01:05,339
that they had in their minds they're

1376
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,040
affecting their rationale and could have

1377
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:10,799
mesmerized you or put you in a

1378
01:01:14,930 --> 01:01:13,260
world position where you were you were

1379
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,940
putting it together based on the control

1380
01:01:19,730 --> 01:01:16,319
of your mind

1381
01:01:21,770 --> 01:01:19,740
I made myself dirty but uh the the

1382
01:01:23,329 --> 01:01:21,780
belief that my belief is that they do

1383
01:01:25,549 --> 01:01:23,339
have the power to control the mind

1384
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:25,559
because in most encounter cases they

1385
01:01:29,569 --> 01:01:26,880
don't really thought there's no

1386
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:29,579
impossible anyway in the preponderance

1387
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,700
of cases for that investigated apart

1388
01:01:35,650 --> 01:01:34,079
from what I know about the little the

1389
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:35,660
creatures but

1390
01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:37,980
they don't talk they don't verbalize

1391
01:01:43,609 --> 01:01:41,400
I've had inscriptions given to me by the

1392
01:01:46,910 --> 01:01:43,619
people I've had contact or whatever

1393
01:01:49,309 --> 01:01:46,920
let's call it the social counters very

1394
01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:49,319
close with the psychic effects of the

1395
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:52,440
whole world and prescriptions there

1396
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:54,900
would fall precisely align what you're

1397
01:01:59,089 --> 01:01:57,599
relating it's the people will have

1398
01:02:01,250 --> 01:01:59,099
effects when they see everything in

1399
01:02:05,150 --> 01:02:01,260
mathematical equations

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per week uh the Sea of the ocean the

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ocean

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uh in Red Sky green

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uh everything in opposites or in blocks

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or whatever there's all these uh the

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phantasmic or the whole the whole earth

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01:02:24,530 --> 01:02:21,839
is in a complete uh disarray and as a

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fantasy and uh we could not account for

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01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:26,220
that not certainly can't but these are

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01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:28,680
occasions that I'm sure that are being

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01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:31,140
looked into by brokered by Heinrich

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01:02:36,829 --> 01:02:35,400
group someday I hope our scientists who

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says that we're dealing with something

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from another round or whatever

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01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:41,400
uh that they can put some of this

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together and perform a patterns so that

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01:02:48,410 --> 01:02:46,260
we will know something somebody just

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01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:48,420
talk about it all the time I hope we can

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01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:50,220
find a pattern for this study yeah but

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01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:51,839
tonight when the signing began mine

1420
01:02:55,370 --> 01:02:53,160
almost being lit up when there's a half

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01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:55,380
hour before I ever had decided and my

1422
01:02:59,950 --> 01:02:57,540
son came home he went yeah what did you

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01:03:03,109 --> 01:02:59,960
see originally that started

1424
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:03,119
I saw my home being lit up I didn't take

1425
01:03:07,309 --> 01:03:04,799
that serious I thought it was an unusual

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01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:07,319
storm I was announced and as the the

1427
01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:09,119
light would come through the windows it

1428
01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:10,799
would be like a wide width had come up

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01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:12,540
there wouldn't be any point to come up

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to about that wide you know at the top

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it it would light up two-thirds of the

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room all the way through the hallway and

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01:03:21,170 --> 01:03:19,140
all of them I didn't take it serious I

1434
01:03:22,970 --> 01:03:21,180
thought it was an unusual storm so I

1435
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:22,980
began to walk around where normally when

1436
01:03:26,270 --> 01:03:24,540
I look at a book or something I'll

1437
01:03:27,829 --> 01:03:26,280
always cut the TV on while I'm doing it

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01:03:30,289 --> 01:03:27,839
and I pay any attention but it wouldn't

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01:03:31,730 --> 01:03:30,299
work I didn't take it serious my son

1440
01:03:33,770 --> 01:03:31,740
came home when he was going to the

1441
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,780
drive-in he says mom I stayed for the

1442
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:35,280
one show and I decided I wouldn't stay

1443
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,720
for that late show he's I don't know why

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01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,640
that he but he did say it was unusually

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01:03:41,870 --> 01:03:40,559
dark outfit like and I said well didn't

1446
01:03:43,250 --> 01:03:41,880
you see the lightning light comes down

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01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:43,260
she was nice it's driving I didn't

1448
01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:46,200
noticed anything so if he comes in I

1449
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:48,059
said well get the radio and we check to

1450
01:03:51,710 --> 01:03:50,160
see about stuff if even that one station

1451
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:51,720
has that crazy static on we couldn't

1452
01:03:55,309 --> 01:03:53,280
even get that I couldn't be throwing a

1453
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:55,319
phone I still didn't take it serious but

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01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:57,359
when he went to his room I went to the

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01:04:00,829 --> 01:03:58,619
door and the lights were on the other

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01:04:02,990 --> 01:04:00,839
side of the street I opened the door I

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01:04:05,329 --> 01:04:03,000
start to look up and it was the there's

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01:04:07,130 --> 01:04:05,339
like a street cut Alexander catty corner

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01:04:09,289 --> 01:04:07,140
from where I was standing and the second

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01:04:11,630 --> 01:04:09,299
street light the metal itself was white

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01:04:13,490 --> 01:04:11,640
and glaring and it lit up not the bulb

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01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:13,500
but the metal and I didn't take that

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01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:15,780
serious there was like two blue blobs or

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01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:17,640
something and they was like I didn't

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01:04:21,230 --> 01:04:19,680
even take them serious and because I

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01:04:24,170 --> 01:04:21,240
thought while the electrical boxes they

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01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:24,180
put up you know nothing's fancy so I

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01:04:26,809 --> 01:04:25,260
didn't take it serious and all of a

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01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:26,819
sudden it would like get light you

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01:04:29,809 --> 01:04:28,140
wouldn't see thing it got dark again

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01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:29,819
there were three of them candy corn and

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01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:31,440
from where I was standing across the

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01:04:34,849 --> 01:04:33,480
street I didn't take that series but

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then as I started to hook the screen

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01:04:37,970 --> 01:04:36,660
assuming all the street lights were

1476
01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:37,980
coming on this all of a sudden see these

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01:04:41,569 --> 01:04:39,900
crazy circles right in line I didn't see

1478
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,579
they were lying with the streets then I

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01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,200
thought well that's too perfect the

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situation since I started to turn back

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01:04:49,849 --> 01:04:46,799
and unhook the top of the screen that's

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01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,859
why I saw that nine solid discs and just

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01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:51,599
as I started to hook the screen more or

1484
01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:53,160
less to go out like I didn't touch the

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01:04:56,930 --> 01:04:54,900
screen because my picture went right

1486
01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:56,940
next to it like came to a glare and

1487
01:05:00,170 --> 01:04:58,559
normally I want a car will drive up and

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just unhook the door as I started to

1489
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reach your door my screen began to

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disappear and I didn't touch the door

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01:05:08,690 --> 01:05:06,119
then because something stood in it real

1492
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,700
fast looked like a lot of hands shutting

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01:05:12,410 --> 01:05:10,319
a lot of windows with a lot of strained

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01:05:13,730 --> 01:05:12,420
red hair and as they were shutting the

1495
01:05:15,710 --> 01:05:13,740
window they were shutting from the right

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to the left well it would be like from

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01:05:18,890 --> 01:05:17,819
here to here to me and if this happened

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01:05:20,270 --> 01:05:18,900
I didn't believe what I was seeing

1499
01:05:22,370 --> 01:05:20,280
exactly there's no way and as I said

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01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,380
that it's flipped off with a funny

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01:05:27,049 --> 01:05:24,960
scraping like a car scraping a bush and

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01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,059
they had a buzzing sound like in unison

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01:05:30,530 --> 01:05:28,559
but they were going up and down all at

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01:05:32,329 --> 01:05:30,540
one time the same used in theory and as

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01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:32,339
I turned around you could see like a

1506
01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:34,559
reddish orange light fit my closet door

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01:05:38,569 --> 01:05:36,540
and it's right where I was standing and

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01:05:40,490 --> 01:05:38,579
I said and as I said no way and turn

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01:05:42,170 --> 01:05:40,500
around Michaels from other room said I

1510
01:05:43,490 --> 01:05:42,180
already put the radio away and I said

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01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:43,500
what I'm talking to you and I thought

1512
01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:45,359
well who do I think I was talking to and

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01:05:49,130 --> 01:05:47,040
then when I turned back assuming it

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01:05:51,470 --> 01:05:49,140
would be gone there was like this black

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01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:51,480
thing like a pulsating mop I I have to

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01:05:54,349 --> 01:05:53,160
say that it could have been black water

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01:05:57,230 --> 01:05:54,359
or anything it will look more like a

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01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:57,240
seashore all black but it was like

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01:06:01,309 --> 01:05:58,980
pulsating like you you know these things

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01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:01,319
that the Cardinals and stuff you'd walk

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01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:03,839
in and like when I tried to look up it

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01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:05,700
was just like black glare and I probably

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01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,680
assumed it was a guy you know but there

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01:06:13,130 --> 01:06:10,079
were like a lot of or like yellowish

1525
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:13,140
type eyes in this thing and I kept and I

1526
01:06:16,849 --> 01:06:14,400
looked to the right there was some kind

1527
01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:16,859
of a figure with appendages at the top

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01:06:20,809 --> 01:06:18,599
and it was standing with these funny

1529
01:06:23,030 --> 01:06:20,819
things like this and I'm looking ahead

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01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:23,040
white white and the eye part and the

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01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:25,260
Slit and I'm thinking I don't understand

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01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:28,020
because about that time it took a change

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01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:29,760
would look like you know how you see a

1534
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:31,920
cat purring and a body alone it took

1535
01:06:36,349 --> 01:06:33,599
like a body of the cat but no head Just

1536
01:06:37,730 --> 01:06:36,359
the Funny looks and I thought you know I

1537
01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:37,740
thought don't leave I just want to know

1538
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:39,240
what this is about and then if it did

1539
01:06:43,490 --> 01:06:41,039
that it went into this black that was

1540
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:43,500
pulsing in here and then all these eyes

1541
01:06:46,430 --> 01:06:44,880
were near and I kept saying I don't

1542
01:06:49,849 --> 01:06:46,440
understand you know

1543
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,859
and then I just like when the one I

1544
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:51,359
would go they would all go just like

1545
01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:53,039
Steps in the Box on a pyramid or

1546
01:06:56,270 --> 01:06:54,420
something always go at one time right

1547
01:06:58,730 --> 01:06:56,280
can you understand and the one stays the

1548
01:07:00,170 --> 01:06:58,740
longest and after that's when like it

1549
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:00,180
was like there was a projection of a

1550
01:07:05,150 --> 01:07:02,220
plane and someone getting on with a

1551
01:07:07,849 --> 01:07:05,160
briefcase and they had a light thin it

1552
01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:07,859
was a type suit that was hanging very

1553
01:07:12,410 --> 01:07:10,140
fine not like a knit but like a non type

1554
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:12,420
thing would hang flat and but there's

1555
01:07:16,970 --> 01:07:15,119
one thing difference of plain ladder had

1556
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:16,980
no things thought it was like it was

1557
01:07:20,809 --> 01:07:18,420
hanging like a rope but it didn't move

1558
01:07:23,089 --> 01:07:20,819
it was hard like like a metal fold would

1559
01:07:25,130 --> 01:07:23,099
be and you saw the person projecting on

1560
01:07:27,170 --> 01:07:25,140
it they're like walking up on it

1561
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,180
about that time my son's name was

1562
01:07:31,789 --> 01:07:29,520
mentioned and it felt like a hit on my

1563
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:31,799
neck just like you take on this part and

1564
01:07:35,809 --> 01:07:33,359
as I did that I was standing back at the

1565
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,819
door and then I said I you know how you

1566
01:07:38,510 --> 01:07:37,200
see it and you don't believe it so I

1567
01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:38,520
just bothered things up we see them

1568
01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:41,880
again as I said that I saw that looked

1569
01:07:46,190 --> 01:07:43,500
like the clouds opened up and you saw

1570
01:07:47,809 --> 01:07:46,200
one big metal disc with a small one and

1571
01:07:49,549 --> 01:07:47,819
there was a black line around the middle

1572
01:07:51,770 --> 01:07:49,559
bottom saw halfway with a black circle

1573
01:07:53,870 --> 01:07:51,780
underneath it and then after that there

1574
01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:53,880
was a very unusual lightning bolt that

1575
01:07:58,370 --> 01:07:56,760
looked like a Hercules thing on TV and I

1576
01:08:01,609 --> 01:07:58,380
thought well this thing goes down well

1577
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:01,619
everything's Really Gonna Get the you

1578
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:04,200
know something will happen and what was

1579
01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:07,520
your son he was in bed

1580
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:10,200
no as far as I know he didn't hear a

1581
01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:11,700
thing and I didn't even mention it to

1582
01:08:15,170 --> 01:08:13,380
him because I figure he's not going to

1583
01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:15,180
believe that one intervals at all this

1584
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:18,120
what time lapse uh well all started like

1585
01:08:20,990 --> 01:08:19,679
he came on the drive-in earlier and

1586
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,000
didn't say his ways he should have said

1587
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:23,520
the homeless being left maybe say 12 30

1588
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:26,279
20 to what and at ten after one I had